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04/15/2022 09:00 AM House LABOR & COMMERCE

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09:05:07 AM Start
09:06:42 AM Board of Veterinary Examiners
09:21:05 AM HB405
09:55:20 AM HB406
10:07:06 AM HB407
10:25:24 AM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
-- Please Note Time Change --
+ Consideration of Governor’s Appointees: Board TELECONFERENCED
of Examiners in Optometry - Kathleen Rice;
Board of Certified Real Estate Appraisers -
Valery Kudryn; Board of Certified Direct-Entry
Midwives - Hannah St. George; Real Estate
Commission - Chad Stigen and Devon Thomas;
Board of Social Work Examiners - Gabriel King;
Board of Veterinary Examiners - Ciara Vallaro
*+ HB 405 ESTABLISHMENT OF TRUSTS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
*+ HB 406 MORATORIUM ON TRUSTS/PROPERTY ACQUISITION TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
*+ HB 407 PROHIBIT COMMERCE WITH RUSSIA TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= SB 174 ALLOW NATURAL HAIRSTYLES TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled but Not Heard
                     ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                 
            HOUSE LABOR AND COMMERCE STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                       
                          April 15, 2022                                                                                        
                             9:05 a.m.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Zack Fields, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Ivy Spohnholz, Co-Chair                                                                                          
Representative Calvin Schrage (via teleconference)                                                                              
Representative David Nelson                                                                                                     
Representative James Kaufman                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Liz Snyder                                                                                                       
Representative Ken McCarty                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CONFIRMATION HEARING(S):                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Board of Certified Real Estate Appraisers                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Valery Kudryn  Wasilla                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD AND HELD                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Real Estate Commission                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Devon (Thomas) Doran  Wasilla                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Chad Stigen  Palmer                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD AND HELD                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Board of Examiners in Optometry                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Kathleen Rice, OD  Kenai                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD AND HELD                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Board of Direct Entry Midwives                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Hanna St. George  Fairbanks                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD AND HELD                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Board of Social Work Examiners                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Gabriel King  North Pole                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD AND HELD                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
BOARD OF VETERINARY EXAMINERS                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Ciara Vollaro, DVM  Palmer                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD AND HELD                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 405                                                                                                              
"An Act relating to the establishment of trusts; requiring the                                                                  
filing of certain trust information; and requiring compliance                                                                   
with a federal law."                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 406                                                                                                              
"An  Act  relating  to the  validity  of  trusts  involving  persons                                                            
sanctioned  by the  United States  Department of  the Treasury;  and                                                            
relating  to the recording  of documents conveying  land to  persons                                                            
sanctioned by the United States Department of the Treasury."                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 407                                                                                                              
"An Act relating to commerce with Russia; relating to the use of                                                                
the ports in the state; and providing for an effective date."                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 405                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: ESTABLISHMENT OF TRUSTS                                                                                            
SPONSOR(s): LABOR & COMMERCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
04/04/22        (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                       
04/04/22        (H)       L&C                                                                                                   
04/08/22        (H)       L&C AT 9:00 AM BARNES 124                                                                             
04/08/22        (H)       -- MEETING CANCELED --                                                                                
04/15/22        (H)       L&C AT 9:00 AM BARNES 124                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 406                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: MORATORIUM ON TRUSTS/PROPERTY ACQUISITION                                                                          
SPONSOR(s): LABOR & COMMERCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
04/04/22        (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                       
04/04/22        (H)       L&C                                                                                                   
04/08/22        (H)       L&C AT 9:00 AM BARNES 124                                                                             
04/08/22        (H)       -- MEETING CANCELED --                                                                                
04/15/22        (H)       L&C AT 9:00 AM BARNES 124                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 407                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: PROHIBIT COMMERCE WITH RUSSIA                                                                                      
SPONSOR(s): LABOR & COMMERCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
04/04/22        (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                       
04/04/22        (H)       L&C                                                                                                   
04/08/22        (H)       L&C AT 9:00 AM BARNES 124                                                                             
04/08/22        (H)       -- MEETING CANCELED --                                                                                
04/15/22        (H)       L&C AT 9:00 AM BARNES 124                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
VALERY KUDRYN, Appointee                                                                                                        
Board of Certified Real Estate Appraisers                                                                                       
Division of Corporations, Business and Professional Licensing                                                                   
Department of Commerce, Community, and Economic Development                                                                     
Wasilla, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified as appointee to the Board of                                                                   
Certified Real Estate Appraisers.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
DEVON "THOMAS" DORAN, Appointee                                                                                                 
Real Estate Commission                                                                                                          
Division of Corporations, Business and Professional Licensing                                                                   
Department of Commerce, Community, and Economic Development                                                                     
Wasilla, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified as appointee to the Real Estate                                                                
Commission.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAD STIGEN, Appointee                                                                                                          
Real Estate Commission                                                                                                          
Division of Corporations, Business and Professional Licensing                                                                   
Department of Commerce, Community, and Economic Development                                                                     
Palmer, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified as appointee to the Real Estate                                                                
Commission.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
KATHLEEN RICE, OD, Appointee                                                                                                    
Board of Examiners in Optometry                                                                                                 
Division of Corporations, Business and Professional Licensing                                                                   
Department of Commerce, Community, and Economic Development                                                                     
Kenai, Alaska                                                                                                                   
POSITION  STATEMENT:    Testified  as  appointee  to  the  Board  of                                                          
Examiners in Optometry.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
HANNA ST. GEORGE, Appointee                                                                                                     
Board of Certified Direct-Entry Midwives                                                                                        
Division of Corporations, Business and Professional Licensing                                                                   
Department of Commerce, Community, and Economic Development                                                                     
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:    Testified  as  appointee  to  the  Board  of                                                          
Certified Direct-Entry Midwives.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
GABRIEL KING, Appointee                                                                                                         
Board of Social Work Examiners                                                                                                  
Division of Corporations, Business and Professional Licensing                                                                   
Department of Commerce, Community, and Economic Development                                                                     
North Pole, Alaska                                                                                                              
POSITION  STATEMENT:    Testified  as  appointee  to  the  Board  of                                                          
Social Work Examiners.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CIARA VOLLARO, DVM, Appointee                                                                                                   
Board of Veterinary Examiners                                                                                                   
Division of Corporations, Business and Professional Licensing                                                                   
Department of Commerce, Community, and Economic Development                                                                     
Palmer, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:    Testified  as  appointee  to  the  Board  of                                                          
Veterinary Examiners.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
EVAN ANDERSON, Staff                                                                                                            
Representative Zack Fields                                                                                                      
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:   During  the  hearing on  HB 405,  provided  a                                                          
PowerPoint  presentation titled  "House Bill  405" on behalf  of the                                                            
House Labor and Commerce Standing Committee, sponsor.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
RYAN GURULE, Policy Director                                                                                                    
Financial   Accountability   and   Corporate   Transparency   (FACT)                                                            
Coalition                                                                                                                       
Washington, DC                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:  Provided  invited testimony  in support  of HB
405.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ROBERT SCHMIDT, Director                                                                                                        
Division of Banking and Securities                                                                                              
Department   of  Commerce,  Community,   and  Economic  Development                                                             
(DEED)                                                                                                                          
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:    During  the  hearing  on  HB  405,  answered                                                          
questions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
TRACY RENO, Chief Financial Examiner                                                                                            
Division of Banking and Securities                                                                                              
Department   of  Commerce,  Community,   and  Economic  Development                                                             
(DEED)                                                                                                                          
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:    During  the  hearing  on  HB  405,  answered                                                          
questions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
EVAN ANDERSON, Staff                                                                                                            
Representative Zack Fields                                                                                                      
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:   During  the  hearing on  HB 406,  provided  a                                                          
PowerPoint  presentation titled  "House Bill  406" on behalf  of the                                                            
House Labor and Commerce Standing Committee, sponsor.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
RYAN GURULE, Policy Director                                                                                                    
Financial Accountability and Corporate Transparency Coalition                                                                   
Washington, DC                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:    During  the  hearing  on  HB  406,  provided                                                          
invited   testimony    with   suggestions   for   the   committee's                                                             
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
EVAN ANDERSON, Staff                                                                                                            
Representative Zack Fields                                                                                                      
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:   During the  hearing on HB  407, provided  the                                                          
sectional  analysis for the  bill on behalf  of the House Labor  and                                                            
Commerce Standing Committee, sponsor.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
STEVE WHITE, Captain, Executive Director                                                                                        
Marine Exchange of Alaska                                                                                                       
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:    During  the  hearing  on  HB  407,  provided                                                          
invited  testimony via  a PowerPoint  presentation  titled  "Russian                                                            
Vessels in Alaska."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CLAYTON W.A. CHRISTY, Captain, President                                                                                        
Alaska Marine Pilots                                                                                                            
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Dutch Harbor,  Alaska During  the hearing  on                                                          
HB 407, provided invited testimony.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:05:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  IVY  SPOHNHOLZ   called  the  House  Labor   and  Commerce                                                          
Standing    Committee    meeting    to    order   at    9:05    a.m.                                                            
Representatives  Kaufman,  Nelson,  Schrage  (via  teleconference),                                                             
Fields, and Spohnholz were present at the call to order.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
^CONFIRMATION HEARING(S):                                                                                                       
                     CONFIRMATION HEARING(S):                                                                               
^Board of Certified Real Estate Appraisers                                                                                      
             Board of Certified Real Estate Appraisers                                                                      
^Real Estate Commission                                                                                                         
                      Real Estate Commission                                                                                
^Board of Examiners in Optometry                                                                                                
                  Board of Examiners in Optometry                                                                           
^Board of Direct Entry Midwives                                                                                                 
                  Board of Direct Entry Midwives                                                                            
^Board of Social Work Examiners                                                                                                 
                  Board of Social Work Examiners                                                                            
^Board of Veterinary Examiners                                                                                                  
                   Board of Veterinary Examiners                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:06:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SPOHNHOLZ  announced  that  the first  order  of  business                                                            
would  be consideration  of  the governor's  appointees  to  various                                                            
boards and commissions.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:07:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VALERY   KUDRYN,  Appointee,   Board   of  Certified   Real   Estate                                                            
Appraisers,  Division  of Corporations,  Business  and Professional                                                             
Licensing,   Department  of   Commerce,  Community,   and   Economic                                                            
Development  (DCCED),   testified  as  appointee  to  the  Board  of                                                            
Certified  Real  Estate   Appraisers.    He  stated  that  he  is  a                                                            
residential  appraiser and  has done appraisals  in the [Matanuska-                                                             
Susitna]  Valley since  2010.  During  the year  that he has  served                                                            
on this  board, he related,  the board has  re-looked at being  able                                                            
to   complete   continuing   education   requirements   online   and                                                            
modernizing  the qualifying  education portion  from only in  person                                                            
to  allowing  for  the  other education   opportunities  that  would                                                            
still  be  in line  with  the  board's  goal  to  strengthen  public                                                            
trust in  appraising.  He  said his primary  goal in serving  on the                                                            
board  is to  strengthen  public  trust in  appraising  by  ensuring                                                            
competent  appraisers  are  certified in  the  state and  to  ensure                                                            
common sense regulations are in place to assist with that.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:08:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEVON   "THOMAS"   DORAN,   Appointee,   Real   Estate  Commission,                                                             
Division  of  Corporations,  Business  and Professional   Licensing,                                                            
Department  of  Commerce,   Community,  and  Economic  Development,                                                             
testified  as  appointee   to the  Real  Estate   Commission.    She                                                            
stated  she   became  licensed  in   2003,  obtained  her   broker's                                                            
license  in  2007, and  is  a broker  and  owner  of a  real  estate                                                            
office in  the Matanuska-Susitna  Valley.   She said she has  served                                                            
on  local and  state committees  to  give back  to  her real  estate                                                            
community.   She  has  always been  interested  in the  Real  Estate                                                            
Commission,  she  continued,  because  it  has the  most  effect  on                                                            
protecting  the   consumer  and  how  business  is  conducted   with                                                            
changing  technology.   The way she  can serve  the commission,  she                                                            
explained,  is  that  as  a  licensed  and  certified   real  estate                                                            
instructor  she teaches  continuing  education classes,  and a  role                                                            
of the  commission is  to determine  what kind  of education  should                                                            
be taken  for the  renewal  cycle and  she has  already given  input                                                            
on the guidelines for the continuing education requirements.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:12:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAD  STIGEN,  Appointee,   Real  Estate  Commission,   Division  of                                                            
Corporations,  Business and  Professional  Licensing, Department  of                                                            
Commerce,   Community,  and  Economic   Development,  testified   as                                                            
appointee  to  the  Real  Estate Commission.    He  stated  that  he                                                            
became  licensed  about  eight  years  ago,  received  his  broker's                                                            
license  four years  ago,  and has  brokered  his own  office  since                                                            
then.   Prior to  becoming licensed  he worked  in construction,  he                                                            
said,  so he  is  interested  in helping  the  commission  from  his                                                            
well-rounded  experience with  new subdivisions,  land development,                                                             
property  management, and  new construction  sales.  Another  reason                                                            
for his  interest in the  commission, Mr.  Stigen continued,  is the                                                            
need  to get  in  front of  protecting  consumer  privacy  regarding                                                            
smart  homes by  helping  the commission  establish  best  practices                                                            
and educating  licensees  and consumers  on how  to properly  handle                                                            
smart home products that are conveyed when a house is resold.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:14:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KATHLEEN  RICE, OD,  Appointee,  Board  of Examiners  in  Optometry,                                                            
Division  of  Corporations,  Business  and Professional   Licensing,                                                            
Department  of  Commerce,   Community,  and  Economic  Development,                                                             
testified  as appointee  to  the Board  of Examiners  in  Optometry.                                                            
She said  she feels it is  important to give  back to the  optometry                                                            
profession  in more  ways  than just  clinical  care.   She  related                                                            
that during  her nearly  17 years  of experience  she has worked  in                                                            
the hospital  setting,  retail setting,  and has  owned her  private                                                            
practice  since 2015.   Having worked  in many  different  settings,                                                            
she added,  she feels she  can relate to  optometrists in  different                                                            
areas.    Dr.  Rice  stated  that  in  being  on  the  board  it  is                                                            
important  to ensure that  the public is  safe, that the  profession                                                            
continues  to  be regulated,  and  to hold  a  standard  of care  so                                                            
that  everyone  in   Alaska  regardless  of  location   can  receive                                                            
similar care.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:16:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HANNA  ST.  GEORGE,  Appointee,  Board  of  Certified  Direct-Entry                                                             
Midwives,  Division  of  Corporations,  Business   and Professional                                                             
Licensing,   Department  of   Commerce,  Community,   and   Economic                                                            
Development,  testified  as  appointee  to the  Board  of  Certified                                                            
Direct-Entry  Midwives.  She  related that she  is the mother  of 10                                                            
children  and two foster  children and has  attended over 30  births                                                            
as a  support figure.   She  said she  is currently  working on  her                                                            
doula  certification  with a  focus on  post-partum support.    As a                                                            
public  member  on  this  board  for  almost  four  years,  Ms.  St.                                                            
George  continued,  she has  gained a  deeper appreciation  of  what                                                            
being a  midwife entails and  the board is  dedicated to keeping  it                                                            
acceptable and safe for mothers and babies.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:18:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GABRIEL   KING,  Appointee,   Board   of  Social   Work   Examiners,                                                            
Division  of  Corporations,  Business  and Professional   Licensing,                                                            
Department  of  Commerce,   Community,  and  Economic  Development,                                                             
testified  as  appointee to  the  Board of  Social  Work  Examiners.                                                            
He said  he  is interested  in serving  on  this board  as a  public                                                            
member.    He  related  that  he  came  to  Alaska  in  2016  as  an                                                            
infantryman   stationed  on   Fort  Wainwright,   and  having   been                                                            
honorably  discharged  in  2018, he  now  operates  his photography                                                             
business  full time,  traveling  across the  state.   He noted  that                                                            
he  is  currently   pursuing  a  bachelor's   degree  in   political                                                            
science  at the  University of  Alaska  Fairbanks.   Serving on  the                                                            
Board  of Social  Work  Examiners  is  a way  to  give back  to  his                                                            
community,  Mr. King  stated.   Mental  health and  social  services                                                            
are an  integral component  for everyone,  he continued,  and  it is                                                            
imperative  that  everyone   has safe  and  efficacious   access  to                                                            
quality  providers in  their respective  program.   He said this  is                                                            
his first  appointment to  this board and he  believes he can  bring                                                            
fresh perspective to the many matters before the board.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:19:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CIARA  VOLLARO,  DVM,  Appointee,  Board  of Veterinary   Examiners,                                                            
Division  of  Corporations,  Business  and Professional   Licensing,                                                            
Department  of  Commerce,   Community,  and  Economic  Development,                                                             
testified  as  appointee  to  the  Board  of Veterinary   Examiners.                                                            
She stated  that she  graduated  from Western  University of  Health                                                            
Sciences  [College  of  Veterinary  Medicine].    She said  she  has                                                            
been practicing  veterinary  medicine  since 2007  and is  currently                                                            
an  associate   veterinarian   and  medical   director  at   Tier  1                                                            
Veterinary  Medical  Center.   Dr. Vollaro  noted that  this is  her                                                            
first time  serving on  a board,  and she is  interested in  serving                                                            
on  this  board  to  support   the  veterinary  profession's   rapid                                                            
growth  and change,  and to ensure  that veterinarians  continue  to                                                            
provide high quality medicine.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:20:45 AM,                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SPOHNHOLZ  opened  public   testimony  on  the  governor's                                                            
appointees  to  various  boards  and  commissions,  then  closed  it                                                            
after ascertaining that no one wished to testify.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
[Advancements of the appointees were held over.]                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                  HB 405-ESTABLISHMENT OF TRUSTS                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:21:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SPOHNHOLZ  announced  that  the  next  order  of  business                                                            
would   be  HOUSE   BILL  NO.   405,  "An   Act   relating  to   the                                                            
establishment  of  trusts; requiring  the  filing of  certain  trust                                                            
information; and requiring compliance with a federal law."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SPOHNHOLZ  noted  that HB  405  is part  of a  package  of                                                            
bills  the committee  is considering  regarding  Russian  investment                                                            
in Alaska.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:21:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS introduced  HB  405 on  behalf of  the House  Labor                                                            
and  Commerce  Standing  Committee,  sponsor.    He  stated  that  a                                                            
request  was  put in  for  this  legislation  shortly  after  Russia                                                            
invaded  Ukraine, at  which time  people started  asking  themselves                                                            
about  their roles  as citizens  in supporting  the  free people  in                                                            
Ukraine   and  ensuring  that   Putin  and   his  allies  were   not                                                            
inadvertently  being  given  access  to resources  that  they  would                                                            
use to  wage war  on Ukraine.    The idea  of the  bills before  the                                                            
committee  today,   he  explained,  is  to  ensure  that   oligarchs                                                            
aligned  with  Putin or  Putin's  family  are  not able  to  shelter                                                            
wealth  or generate  wealth  in Alaska.   Two  of the  bills are  on                                                            
trusts  and  property  and  one  is  on  preventing   offloading  of                                                            
Russian  imports  at  Alaska   ports.    He  deferred  to  Mr.  Evan                                                            
Anderson of his staff to provide details on the bill.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:22:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
EVAN  ANDERSON,  Staff, Representative   Zack Fields,  Alaska  State                                                            
Legislature,  provided  a  PowerPoint  presentation   titled  "House                                                            
Bill  405"  on behalf  of  the House  Labor  and  Commerce  Standing                                                            
Committee,  sponsor.    He displayed  the  second  slide,  "HB  405:                                                            
Establishment  of trusts,"  and stated  that the  bill would  update                                                            
Alaska law  to ensure trusts  in Alaska will  not be used to  shield                                                            
assets  of  Russian  oligarchs   or other   enemies  of  the  United                                                            
States.    He  said  the  bill  would  ensure  state  trust  law  is                                                            
consistent   with  federal  transparency   requirements   and  would                                                            
provide  clarity   for  industry  as  well  as  state   and  federal                                                            
regulators moving forward.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDERSON  discussed  the graphic  on the third  slide, "What  is                                                            
a trust?"   He explained  that the  graphic is  visual depiction  of                                                            
the  complex web  of  relationships  formalized  by a  legal  trust.                                                            
He  said a  basic  trust is  a  three-way  arrangement.   A  settlor                                                            
puts  assets   into  a  trust  which   is  managed  by  a   trustee,                                                            
typically  a lawyer, on behalf  of beneficiaries.   One of  the many                                                            
types  of trusts  is a  discretionary trust  where  the trustee  has                                                            
discretion  to decide who  gets what, when.   The beneficiaries  can                                                            
argue  that   until  they   receive  a   distribution  they   aren't                                                            
entitled  to any of  the trust assets  because it  is all up  to the                                                            
trustee;  the  assets have  been  given  away  by the  settlor,  but                                                            
nobody  is  entitled to  them  yet.   So,  Mr.  Anderson  continued,                                                            
they  are in  what's considered  ownerless  limbo,  ringfenced  from                                                            
tax, from  creditors, or from  the rule of  law.  He clarified  that                                                            
most  of the  people  with trusts  in Alaska  are  law-abiding  U.S.                                                            
citizens  who deserve  to plan  their estates  and  set assets  into                                                            
trusts for their family members.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDERSON  spoke  from the fourth  slide, "History  of Trusts  in                                                            
Alaska," which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
   • Prior to the Alaska State Constitution, trust law                                                                          
     traces back to England in the Middle Ages                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
   • 1959  1998: trust in Alaska operated as they do in                                                                       
     the vast majority of states                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
   • 1998: Alaska became the second state in the country to                                                                   
     enact super-trust laws                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
   • 1998     2021: Alaska initially captured national                                                                        
     investment.  However,  other  states joined  South Dakota                                                                  
     &  Alaska    including  Nevada,  Delaware, and  Wyoming                                                                    
     enacting  new  laws to  expand the  authority  of trusts.                                                                  
     Increased   competition   led  to  many   of  the   larger                                                                 
     accounts leaving the state                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
   • In October 2021, a series of leaks revealed that                                                                         
        Alaska & five other U.S. states have attracted vast                                                                     
       sums of wealth and could be sheltering funds for the                                                                     
     globe's most violent and corrupt criminals                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ANDERSON compared  Alaska's  trust laws  to  others around  the                                                            
U.S.  and  the  globe.    He  showed  the fifth  slide,   "Financial                                                            
Secrecy  Index,"  and  stated  that  the  Financial   Secrecy  Index                                                            
(FSI),  prepared   by  the  Tax  Justice  Network,   is  a  globally                                                            
recognized  measure  of how  secrecy  laws impact  global  financial                                                            
flows.   He said  the orange color  indicates  the locations  of the                                                            
best  measure  of secrecy  and  thereby the  most  global  financial                                                            
flow.    In 2022,  he  related,  the  U.S.  was  second  behind  the                                                            
Cayman  Islands,  with  South  Dakota,  Alaska,  Nevada,  [Delaware,                                                            
and Wyoming] being the main contributors to that placement.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDERSON  turned  to the  chart on  the sixth  slide,  "Choosing                                                            
the  Correct  Jurisdiction:  An  Objective  Comparison,"  and  noted                                                            
that  the chart  is marketing  by the  Bridgeford  Trust Company,  a                                                            
private   firm  based   in   South  Dakota   that   publishes   this                                                            
comparison  information  on its website;  Alaska  is number four  on                                                            
this  list.    He said  Bridgeford   Trust  Company  specializes  in                                                            
marketing  South  Dakota  and  other  U.S.  states to  some  of  the                                                            
wealthiest families in Latin America.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ANDERSON  proceeded  to  the  seventh  slide,  "Pandora  Papers                                                            
show  foreign money  secretly  floods U.S.  Tax havens.  Some of  it                                                            
is  tainted."   He stated  that  the 2021  Pandora  Papers reveal  a                                                            
small  slice  of  the   extent  to  which  American  companies   are                                                            
involved   in   global   tax   evasion,   money    laundering,   and                                                            
corruption.   He  said  one example  in the  Pandora  Papers is  the                                                            
story  of  Federico  Kong  Vielman  [eighth   slide],  a  Guatemalan                                                            
businessperson]  with  $13.5  million in  assets  held  in trust  in                                                            
South  Dakota, according  to  leaks.  Mr.  Kong  Vielman's palm  oil                                                            
company  was cited by  the U.S.  government for  hiring workers  for                                                            
inadequate  pay with inadequate  safety protection  and his  company                                                            
was also  named  as a contributor  to  toxic pollutants  in a  local                                                            
river.    While Guatemalan  courts  acted  on  the  other  companies                                                            
named  in that  citation as  causing  the pollution,  he  continued,                                                            
they did not act against the Kong Vielman family.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDERSON  moved to the  nineth slide,  "Global Reform  Efforts."                                                            
He  stated  that  despite  the  very  real  possibility   that  U.S.                                                            
trusts  are   being  used  to  shelter   funds  for  oligarchs   and                                                            
dictators,  there  is some  good news.    The global  community  has                                                            
taken  major  steps, especially  in  the  last  10 years,  to  enact                                                            
reforms,  he continued.    The Financial  Action  Task Force  (FATF)                                                            
issued  recommendations  in 2012.   Initially  an intergovernmental                                                             
initiative  of the  G7  countries in  1989,  this intergovernmental                                                             
organization   has  grown   to  now  include   39  global   members,                                                            
including  the U.S.   Its recommendations  set up  a framework  that                                                            
gives  Alaska something  to follow,  he  advised.   Alaska can  also                                                            
look  to  the European  Union  which  has  issued  five anti-money-                                                             
laundering  directives  over the  past  few decades,  most  recently                                                            
requiring  public disclosure  of  beneficial  ownership information                                                             
for trusts.   In  2018 the Bahamas  enacted  reforms, he  continued.                                                            
Showing  up  in the  Pandora  Papers  multiple  times, much  of  the                                                            
accounts  that left  the Bahamas  when the Bahamas  enacted  reforms                                                            
have moved  into  U.S. states,  many of  them South  Dakota.   As of                                                            
2020,  Mr.  Anderson  pointed  out,  17  of  the  least restrictive                                                             
jurisdictions  for trusts  anywhere in  the world  are U.S.  states.                                                            
That  is where  federal regulations  start  to come  in, he  stated.                                                            
In 2021,  the  Corporate Transparency  Act  was signed  into law  by                                                            
President  Biden.   Last month,  the  United Kingdom  (UK),  another                                                            
of  the most  permissive  places in  the  world for  trusts,  passed                                                            
the  Economic  Crime  (Transparency  &  Enforcement)  Act  following                                                            
the Russian invasion of Ukraine.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ANDERSON  displayed the  tenth  slide,  "Which US  states  have                                                            
the  most trusts  in  the Pandora  Papers?"   He  said  it is  South                                                            
Dakota  by far,  and Alaska  is not  named on  the list  of the  top                                                            
five.   But  this is  not  a complete  picture  of the  problem,  he                                                            
continued.   It  is  just one  leak  and the  full extent  to  which                                                            
Alaska is involved is unknown.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDERSON  concluded  with the  eleventh slide.   Regarding  what                                                            
these policies  have to do  with Russia and  its oligarchs,  he said                                                            
it is  known that  Russian President  Vladimir Putin  built his  war                                                            
effort  with  the profits  from  oil  and gas,  seafood,  and  other                                                            
trade  bids.    He  read  from  a  quote  by  Ian  Gary,   Executive                                                            
Director   of   the   Financial    Accountability   and    Corporate                                                            
Transparency   (FACT)  Coalition,   which  states:    "The   secrecy                                                            
currently  afforded   by the  U.S.   and  other  Western  legal  and                                                            
financial systems contributed to President Putin's empowerment."                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:31:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS added  that Alaska's  trust laws  are currently  so                                                            
opaque  that  it wouldn't  be  known  if  oligarchs  are  sheltering                                                            
their assets in the state, and hence the need for legislation.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ reiterated that trusts are used by many law-                                                                 
abiding  citizens and the  intention of  HB 405 [and  HB 406  and HB
407]  is  to  address  those  who  are using  Alaska  as  a  way  of                                                            
avoiding the law.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KAUFMAN  said  he would  like  to see  more  clarity                                                            
around  the problem  stated  because  the  legislation  seems to  be                                                            
impugning  trusts.    One  person's  secrecy   is another   person's                                                            
privacy,  he continued, and  many of those  people are citizens  who                                                            
deserve privacy.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS agreed  that most  people who use  trusts are  law-                                                            
abiding   citizens  that   are   using  trusts   for  appropriately                                                             
legitimate  reasons.   The goal,  he explained,  is  to ensure  that                                                            
the small  percentage  of law  breakers  don't exploit  a system  in                                                            
which  many law-abiding  people  participate.   He said  HB 405  and                                                            
HB  406 are  largely  transparency  requirements  that  would do  no                                                            
harm to everyone who is a law-abiding family trust holder.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:34:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ANDERSON  provided  the  sectional  analysis  of  HB 405.    He                                                            
paraphrased  from  the  document  in  the  committee  packet  titled                                                            
"Sectional  Analysis  House Bill  405    Version A,"  which read  as                                                            
follows [original punction provided]:                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     *   Section    1.   AS   13.36.005(a)   amends   existing                                                                
     documentation   requirements   to  require   an  address,                                                                  
     either  business or residential  address,  as part of  the                                                                 
     initial court filing.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
       * Sec. 2. AS 13.36 is amended by adding a new section                                                                  
          that requires new trusts to file establishment                                                                        
     paperwork  with  the Department  of Commerce,  Community,                                                                  
     &  Economic  Development,   including  the  names  of  the                                                                 
     trustee,  the settlor,  the  beneficiary,  and the person                                                                  
     or  individual   filing  the  documentation.  DCCED   will                                                                 
     establish a fee for establishment.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     This  section affirms  the  confidential nature  of  trust                                                                 
     information.  Public  disclosure  of private  information                                                                  
     contained  within  trusts  is  unlawful.  DCCED  has  non-                                                                 
     disclosure   agreements  in  place  for  staff  in   other                                                                 
     departments  to  retain  confidentiality.  Non-disclosure                                                                  
     provisions  could  be expanded  to Division  of Banking  &                                                                 
     Securities     staff    handling    confidential     trust                                                                 
     information.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     This  section allows  DCCED to release  trust information                                                                  
     to  the  U.S.  Department  of  the  Treasury.  This  is  a                                                                 
     logical   next   step  for   protecting   Alaska's   trust                                                                 
     industry  in the  21st  century    all are  welcome  here,                                                                 
     except war criminals and terrorists.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     * Sec.  3. This section  provides for  an effective  date.                                                               
     This  bill will  not impact  trusts established  prior  to                                                                 
     its effective date.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ANDERSON  pointed   out  that  a  draft  [proposed]   committee                                                            
substitute  (CS) has  been received,  so there may  be some  changes                                                            
to  present   to  the  committee   at  the   bill's  next   hearing.                                                            
Regarding  Section 1, he  said there have  been lengthy  discussions                                                            
with  the Division  of  Legislative Legal  Services  because,  under                                                            
existing  structures  in  Alaska statute,  no  address  is  required                                                            
for  filing   if  a  trust   does  not  have   a  business   address                                                            
associated  with it.  Family  trusts might  have nothing to  do with                                                            
a business,  he  continued, so  this seemed  like  a clear  loophole                                                            
that  was  easy  to  close.    Regarding  Section  2,  Mr.  Anderson                                                            
pointed   out  that  public   disclosure   of  private  information                                                             
contained  within  trusts  is unlawful  and  would  remain  unlawful                                                            
with the passage of HB 405.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:36:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SPOHNHOLZ asked  Mr.  Anderson to  address Representative                                                             
Kaufman's question.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ANDERSON  referred   to  the  nineth  slide  regarding   global                                                            
reforms  where some  jurisdictions  around the  globe are  requiring                                                            
public  disclosure of  beneficial  ownership information.   But,  he                                                            
advised,  this is  not the  intention  in HB  405 as  that would  be                                                            
going  further than  the  Corporate Transparency  Act,  federal  law                                                            
which  does  not require  public  disclosure  of  that information.                                                             
Rather,  he continued,  it creates  a central  registry through  the                                                            
U.S.   Department   of   Treasury,   so   there   is  no   risk   to                                                            
confidentiality of that information.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ began invited testimony on HB 405.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:37:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RYAN  GURULE,   Policy   Director,  Financial   Accountability   and                                                            
Corporate   Transparency   (FACT)   Coalition,    provided   invited                                                            
testimony  in   support  of  HB  405.    He  noted  that   the  FACT                                                            
Coalition  is  a  nonpartisan  alliance   of  members  dedicated  to                                                            
standing  up  structural  reforms   to combat   harms  flowing  from                                                            
financial  secrecy   and  vulnerabilities  in  the  U.S.   financial                                                            
system  that   facilitate  money   laundering,  sanctions   evasion,                                                            
corruption, tax dodging, and illicit financial flows.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. GURULE  said the  Pandora Papers  offer  concrete evidence  that                                                            
the  U.S. is  a  singular  financial  jurisdiction,  an undesirable                                                             
status  that erodes  the  tax  bases of  the  U.S. and  its  allies,                                                            
undermines  U.S.  national  security,  compromises   U.S.  financial                                                            
markets,  and weakens  democracy in  the U.S. and  abroad.   He said                                                            
the effects  of these harms  manifest not  as academic concerns  but                                                            
as  direct  impacts  to  local  U.S.  communities.    The  financial                                                            
secrecy  afforded by  the U.S.  and its  allies,  he continued,  has                                                            
previously   enriched   and   empowered   potentially   adversarial                                                             
regimes,  including  Russian  President   Putin,  giving  his  inner                                                            
circle  a  backdoor  to  evade earlier   sanctions  and emboldening                                                             
their corrupt and criminal behavior.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GURULE  related  that,  given  the  risks  posed  by  financial                                                            
secrecy,  the  Biden   Administration  and  bipartisan   efforts  in                                                            
Congress  have prioritized  bringing  greater transparency  to  U.S.                                                            
legal  entities  in  the  fight  against  corruption.   Dismantling                                                             
secretive  systems that  enable corrupt  actors and  tax dodgers  to                                                            
avoid  accountability  can  also  make  well-coordinated   sanctions                                                            
targeting  the wealth of  Putin and oligarchs  more effective  today                                                            
and make  it less  likely for  needing similar  retaliatory  efforts                                                            
against kleptocrats in the future.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.   GURULE   specified  that   anonymous   shell   companies   and                                                            
arrangements  capable  of being  formed  or otherwise  investing  or                                                            
doing   business   in   the   U.S.,  pose   one   of   the   biggest                                                            
vulnerabilities  to  the U.S.  financial system.    He related  that                                                            
an  analysis  by  Global  Financial  Integrity   found  that,  until                                                            
recently  in all 50  states, more  personal  information was  needed                                                            
to obtain  a library  card  than to  establish a  legal entity  that                                                            
can be  used to  facilitate tax  evasion, money  laundering,  fraud,                                                            
and corruption.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. GURULE  stated that  the Pandora Papers  specifically  implicate                                                            
U.S.  trusts  as one  of  the  most significant   gaps in  the  U.S.                                                            
anti-money  laundering  regulatory regime.   Alaska,  he  continued,                                                            
has its  own sordid history  with commoditizing  financial  secrecy,                                                            
making the proposed reforms discussed today even more critical.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. GURULE  related that  in the 1990's,  struggling with  depressed                                                            
oil prices,  Alaska  was looking  for new  ways  to attract  outside                                                            
capital   investment.    From   that  position,   he  said,   Alaska                                                            
considered  and passed  changes to  its trust  laws first  suggested                                                            
by  a  New York  lawyer  that  would  push  the  state  far  outside                                                            
existing  trust laws  and  soon would  result in  Delaware,  Nevada,                                                            
and  South  Dakota following  Alaska  into  the  rabbit hole.    The                                                            
result,  he  continued,   is  a  competition  for  foreign   capital                                                            
seeking  effective   anonymity,  not  just  protection   for  future                                                            
claims against heirs.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. GURULE  said the  benefits of  this anonymity  for out-of-state                                                             
tax-dodgers,  corrupt  politicians,  and  others  seeking  to  avoid                                                            
public accountability  has  been obvious since  the start.   Whether                                                            
equivocal  and offsetting  benefits have been  realized by  Alaska's                                                            
citizenry  or that of  other states  that are  victims of the  race-                                                            
to-the   bottom    for   attracting    shadow   capital    is   more                                                            
questionable.    As international  tax  and  financial transparency                                                             
measures  have  begun  to  peel  back  secrecy  in  traditional  tax                                                            
havens,  he  continued,  cross-border  deposits  in  U.S.  financial                                                            
institutions,  often  held in  trust or  via other  legal  anonymous                                                            
vehicles, have substantially increased.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. GURULE  advised that it  is known from  the Pandora Papers  that                                                            
U.S.  trusts  are being  heavily  abused.   For  example,  the  same                                                            
secrecy afforded  by Alaska  created the impetus  for a known  human                                                            
rights'  violator to  relocate  his trust  assets  from the  Bahamas                                                            
to the  U.S.  The  Pandora Papers,  he noted, are  just one  leak of                                                            
data  and  should  not  be  viewed  as  indicative   of  the  entire                                                            
universe  of problematic  anonymous  U.S. investment  by corrupt  or                                                            
criminal  actors.   Rather, he  said, the  Pandora  Papers serve  as                                                            
an  indictment  on the  financial  secrecy  afforded by  U.S.  laws,                                                            
including those in Alaska.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. GURULE  related that  on 1/1/21 Congress  took steps to  address                                                            
threats   posed  by  anonymous   legal  entities   and  passed   the                                                            
bipartisan  Corporate   Transparency  Act  (CTA).     He  said  this                                                            
measure  requires corporations,  limited  liability  companies,  and                                                            
other similar  entities formed  or registering  to do business  in a                                                            
state  by a filing  with a  secretary  of state  or similar  office,                                                            
to  disclose  their  true,  natural  owner  to  a  secure  directory                                                            
housed and  maintained at  Treasury's Financial  Crimes Enforcement                                                             
Network (FinCEN).                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GURULE  conveyed  that  the  FACT Coalition   previously  filed                                                            
comments  on  best  practices  for  establishing  the  directory  in                                                            
response   to  FinCEN's   first   proposed   rulemaking,   including                                                            
addressing  who should  file  disclosures,  when they  should  file,                                                            
what information  they should  provide, and  how certain  exemptions                                                            
should  be handled.   He said  FinCEN  has announced  that it  plans                                                            
to issue  a  second proposed  rulemaking  addressing  access to  the                                                            
directory,  including by  state, tribal  and  local law enforcement                                                             
agencies.   He  noted  that the  FACT Coalition  has  advocated  for                                                            
uncomplicated and complete access for authorized users.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GURULE  pointed  out  that  the  application   of  the  CTA  to                                                            
certain  trusts  remains  unclear.   He  explained  that  for  those                                                            
trusts which  file only with  local courts,  or that do not  file at                                                            
all  in connection  with  formation  or other  key events,  such  as                                                            
relocating  to Alaska, the  CTA may apply  to varying degrees  based                                                            
on final rules when promulgated.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. GURULE  stated  that HB  405 takes  important  steps to  clarify                                                            
the  application  of  the  Corporate  Transparency   Act  to  trusts                                                            
administered  in  Alaska.   He said  HB 405  also  makes clear  that                                                            
Alaska  will have  ready  access  to the  information  necessary  to                                                            
ensure  that   its  trust  industry   is  attracting  the   type  of                                                            
investment  that does not  put Alaskan citizens  at risk of  greater                                                            
national  security  threats  or  rising  prices  contributed  to  by                                                            
global geopolitical conflicts.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. GURULE  offered  the FACT  Coalition's  support for  HB 405  and                                                            
Alaska's  efforts to pivot  from the secrecy  rat-race toward  being                                                            
a  singular leader  in  promoting  greater financial  transparency.                                                             
He  urged that  the bill  incorporate  five  policy recommendations                                                             
to ensure  that  HB 405  brings greater  transparency  to the  trust                                                            
industry  in Alaska in  a way that  does not  afford workarounds  to                                                            
bad actors  and helps  to bring about  an end  to the American  tax-                                                            
haven:   1.  At a minimum,  beneficial  ownership  reporting  should                                                            
apply  to  any  trust  governed  by  Alaskan  law,  administered  in                                                            
whole  or in  part  in Alaska  or by  an  Alaskan trustee,  or  that                                                            
otherwise  has situs  in Alaska.   Legacy  trusts  should be  timely                                                            
incorporated  into  the  regime, as  should  any  relocating  trust.                                                            
2. All  relevant  actors should  be covered.   A  strong  definition                                                            
of beneficial  owners  should look  to control  of trust  governance                                                            
and  assets  and  rights  to,  or  control  over,  distributions  of                                                            
trust  assets,  including  for  protectors,  trustees,  settlors  or                                                            
grantors,  and certain  beneficiaries.   3. The  bill should  create                                                            
a clear,  affirmative obligation  for Alaskan  trusts to file  under                                                            
the  CTA.     4.  The   bill  should  require   ongoing   reporting,                                                            
monitoring,  and  verification.   Changes  in  beneficial  ownership                                                            
should  be reported  in a timely  fashion, and  data best  practices                                                            
should   apply   to  the   collection,   storage,   and   authorized                                                            
dissemination    of   information   collected   under    the   bill.                                                            
Reporting   burdens  would   be  minimal   in  all   but  the   most                                                            
complicated  structures,   which are  likely  purposefully   opaque.                                                            
Employing  standardized, best  data practices  would further  reduce                                                            
reporting  costs.    5. Additional  secrecy  rights  should  not  be                                                            
created  by the  bill,  and appropriate  penalties  or distribution                                                             
prohibitions  should  be  considered  for any  party  that  provides                                                            
false  information,  directly   or  indirectly,  or  that  fails  to                                                            
provide required information.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GURULE concluded  by  stating that  federalism  is made  better                                                            
when states  innovate  in ways that  reinforce  democracy, open  and                                                            
transparent  markets,  and  national  security.    The  opposite  is                                                            
true,  he   said,  when  states  compete   for  investment   through                                                            
financial   secrecy  to  lure  potentially   corrupt,  illicit,   or                                                            
criminal  capital.  Like  Congress, he continued,  the Alaska  State                                                            
Legislature  has an  important  role to  play in  ensuring that  the                                                            
Alaskan  and  U.S.  financial  systems  are  not  vehicles  for  tax                                                            
dodging,  corruption,  human  rights   abuses,  or  other  financial                                                            
harms.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:47:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS  requested  that  Mr. Robert  Schmidt  address  the                                                            
potential  problems that could  be had with  such opacity of  trusts                                                            
and the risk for abuse.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SPOHNHOLZ  requested  that Mr.  Schmidt also  address  the                                                            
fiscal note.   She recalled  Mr. Schmidt  stating that the  division                                                            
already  has  a  system   that  could  be  used  for   handling  the                                                            
transparency elements incorporated within HB 405.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:47:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROBERT  SCHMIDT,  Director,  Division  of  Banking  and Securities,                                                             
Department   of  Commerce,  Community,   and  Economic  Development                                                             
(DEED), answered  questions  related to HB  405.  He specified  that                                                            
under  its current  role  the  Division of  Banking  and  Securities                                                            
regulates  trust  companies;  but  the division  does  not  regulate                                                            
trusts.    He  said  the division   performs  safety  and  soundness                                                            
examinations   of  trust  companies  under  Title   6,  the  banking                                                            
statutes.   If a trust has  assets on deposit  in a state  chartered                                                            
financial  institution,  he continued,  the division  also  performs                                                            
safety    and   soundness    examinations    of   those    financial                                                            
institutions  under  Title 6.   He  pointed  out that  the  division                                                            
does  not   examine,  register,  license,   approve,  or   otherwise                                                            
review  individual  trusts  which  are governed  by  Title  13.   He                                                            
said the  division appreciates  the concern  that Alaska trust  laws                                                            
may be  used inappropriately,   and that  he will  be speaking  with                                                            
the committee  next  week on HB  408 which  addresses that  concern.                                                            
He advised  that the committee  must also  balance and consider  how                                                            
trusts  are  being used  as  an estate  planning  tool  by  everyday                                                            
Alaskans.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:49:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TRACY  RENO,  Chief Financial  Examiner,  Division  of  Banking  and                                                            
Securities,   Department  of  Commerce,   Community,  and   Economic                                                            
Development  (DEED),  answered questions  related  to HB  405.   She                                                            
explained  that   the  division's  database  is  a  repository   for                                                            
information   under   which   electronic   documents   and   contact                                                            
information  can be saved.   She  said the division,  in looking  at                                                            
HB  405, may  need  to  consider and  research  some  other  things.                                                            
Regarding   the   Office   of   Foreign   Assets    Control   (OFAC)                                                            
requirements,  she  advised  that  it is  not  one-and-done  because                                                            
onboarding  must be  performed, certain  things  must be  identified                                                            
with  individuals,  and  when  trusts are  changed  or  amended  the                                                            
information  must  be updated.   She  further  advised  that if  the                                                            
division  is required to  check this information  against OFAC  or a                                                            
sanction   list   it  would   probably   necessitate   bringing   on                                                            
additional  vendors  to  check  those  lists  periodically   because                                                            
they  change  daily  if  not  hourly  depending   on  who  is  being                                                            
sanctioned,  countries  or individuals.    The division  can have  a                                                            
repository  to  hold  the  information,   she  continued,  but  more                                                            
research  will be  needed  if [the  legislature]  wants  more to  be                                                            
done, such  as reaching out  to OFAC to find  out what the  division                                                            
would have  to do,  how it would  be recorded,  and the  liabilities                                                            
for  employees  if there  is  failure  to identify  someone  on  the                                                            
sanction  list and  it  isn't recorded.   She  said  the bill  deals                                                            
with a  situation that  [the division]  should  be concerned  about,                                                            
but more work is needed to get into the details.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:51:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS offered  his understanding  that if  HB 405  and HB
406  were  enacted   and  it  was  required  for  these   trusts  to                                                            
disclose  to the  department  who  their beneficiaries   are, if  an                                                            
oligarch  on a sanctions  list is identified,  the department  would                                                            
then  report  that  to  the  Treasury  Department,  and  it  is  the                                                            
Treasury Department that would take action to freeze the assets.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  RENO responded  that  that is  her unconfirmed  understanding.                                                             
She  said she  would  need to  speak  with  OFAC to  determine  what                                                            
steps  would need  to be  taken and  how and  when.   She  explained                                                            
that  [the  department]  does  not  currently   hold  that  personal                                                            
private  information  and report  it  to OFAC,  which  is under  the                                                            
U.S.  Department  of the  Treasury,  so  she  doesn't know  all  the                                                            
steps that would need to be in place for that to happen.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:53:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SPOHNHOLZ  surmised  there would  be  some sort  of  risk-                                                            
based  analysis for  determining  which trusts  need  to be  checked                                                            
against the bad actors that are being looked for.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. RENO  pointed  out that  HB 405 says  that every  trust that  is                                                            
established  will have to  file the paperwork  with the  department,                                                            
and the  department  would be running  the information  against  the                                                            
OFAC  list.  She  said every  trust  coming in  that the  department                                                            
is  holding  information  on  would  have  to  be  run periodically                                                             
through  the  database  and  through  the  sanctions   list  because                                                            
those  lists   change  daily,  so   she  assumes  it  would   be  an                                                            
automated system through a vendor.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ surmised it could be done on an annual basis.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. RENO  answered  that she  doesn't know  the  specifics, but  she                                                            
thinks  an  OFAC requirement   is that  it  must  be done  every  so                                                            
often to  report it  within a certain  time period  so as to  not be                                                            
held liable for criminal penalty.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SPOHNHOLZ said the  committee will  ask the department  to                                                            
follow up with answers to its questions.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:55:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS  stressed  that there  is  a very  important  state                                                            
role because  if  Alaska doesn't  identify potential  oligarchs  who                                                            
might be  sheltering wealth  in the state,  then the federal  law is                                                            
rendered ineffective.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ concurred.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
[HB 405 was held over.]                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
         HB 406-MORATORIUM ON TRUSTS/PROPERTY ACQUISITION                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:55:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SPOHNHOLZ  announced  that  the  next  order  of  business                                                            
would be  HOUSE BILL NO.  406, "An Act relating  to the validity  of                                                            
trusts   involving  persons   sanctioned   by   the  United   States                                                            
Department  of  the  Treasury;  and relating  to  the  recording  of                                                            
documents  conveying  land  to  persons  sanctioned  by  the  United                                                            
States Department of the Treasury."                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:55:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
EVAN  ANDERSON,  Staff, Representative   Zack Fields,  Alaska  State                                                            
Legislature,  provided  a  PowerPoint  presentation   titled  "House                                                            
Bill  406"  on behalf  of  the House  Labor  and  Commerce  Standing                                                            
Committee,  sponsor.    He spoke  from  the  fourteenth  slide,  "HB
406: Moratorium  on Trusts  / Property Acquisition."   He  explained                                                            
that HB  406 would:   update  Alaska law  to ensure  trusts held  or                                                            
managed by  enemies of the  United States can  no longer operate  in                                                            
the  state of  Alaska;  prohibit these  individuals  from  acquiring                                                            
real estate,  which  is the biggest  difference  between HB 406  and                                                            
HB  405;  and protect  Alaskans'  access  to  services  provided  by                                                            
trusts,   such   as  estate   planning,   while   ensuring   foreign                                                            
adversaries cannot hide their wealth in Alaska.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ANDERSON  moved to  the  fifteenth slide,  "Office  of  Foreign                                                            
Asset  Control,"  and  stated   that  the  U.S.  Department  of  the                                                            
Treasury  has used economic  power  to freeze assets  of enemies  of                                                            
the U.S.  since  1940 when  Nazi Germany  invaded Norway.   He  said                                                            
OFAC's  authorities were  expanded  with the  2016 Global  Magnitsky                                                            
Act  and stressed  that  sanctions  from  OFAC  target individuals,                                                             
not  countries,  deemed  enemies of  the  U.S.   He  specified  that                                                            
financial  transactions  with  individuals  on  the  sanctions  list                                                            
are  prohibited  for  U.S.  citizens,   which  makes  it  even  more                                                            
concerning  that  Alaska's  trust  laws  could  potentially  conceal                                                            
some  of these  transactions.   He  stated  that [in  October  2021]                                                            
the  Pandora Papers  revealed  that  U.S.  states like  Alaska  have                                                            
trust laws  so strong that  they may effectively  conceal assets  of                                                            
international criminals.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ANDERSON  displayed   a  photograph  on  the  sixteenth   slide                                                            
depicting  Monaco's Monte  Carlo Star,  a luxury  apartment  complex                                                            
located  between the casino  [and the  sea] and  which has in  front                                                            
of it  a marina  full  of yachts.   He said  the  complex was  worth                                                            
$3.1  million  when  it  was  cited  in  the  Pandora  Papers.    He                                                            
related  that according  to  a recent  report by  the International                                                             
Consortium   of  Investigative  Journalists   (ICIJ),  one   of  the                                                            
multi-million-dollar   flats  inside  this  building  was  purchased                                                            
through  a   Caribbean-based  shell   company  in  2003   for  Alina                                                            
Kabaeva,  whom some reports  have identified  as the rumored  mother                                                            
to a child of Russian President Putin.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDERSON  presented  the seventeenth  slide,  "Why do  criminals                                                            
like trusts?"   He paraphrased  a quote from  ["The Puppet  Masters"                                                            
report  by the World  Bank, October  2011], which  states:   "Trusts                                                            
prove  such  a  hurdle  to  investigation,  prosecution   (or  civil                                                            
judgment),  and asset  recovery  that  they are  seldom prioritized                                                             
in  corruption  investigations.     Investigators  and  prosecutors                                                             
tend  not   to  bring  charges  against   trusts,  because   of  the                                                            
difficulty in proving their role in the crime".                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDERSON  showed the  nineteenth slide  and said the  photograph                                                            
includes  Alisher Usmanov,  a notorious Russian  oligarch who  until                                                            
recently  was  majority  owner  of  Arsenal  football  club  in  the                                                            
United  Kingdom  (UK)  and  who is  a  major  financier  of  Putin's                                                            
efforts  in Russia.    Mr. Anderson  moved  to the  twentieth  slide                                                            
and related  that Mr.  Usmanov made  news a few  weeks ago when  his                                                            
spokesperson  said  that Mr.  Usmanov's  assets, including  a  yacht                                                            
and  a London  apartment,  were out  of reach  of  sanctions in  the                                                            
UK,  even  though  located  in  the  UK,  [because   they  had  been                                                            
transferred  into irrevocable  trusts].   Mr.  Anderson stated  that                                                            
things  can  be  done about  these  legal  loopholes  in  Alaska  by                                                            
taking  steps to  integrate  the state's  trusts  into the  existing                                                            
federal enforcement mechanisms.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:00:14 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ANDERSON  reviewed  the  sectional  analysis  of  HB 406.    He                                                            
spoke  from the document  provided  in the committee  packet  titled                                                            
"Sectional  Analysis  House Bill  406    Version B,"  which read  as                                                            
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
         * Section 1. AS 13.36 is amended by adding a new                                                                     
      section that strips a trust of its legal status in the                                                                    
     State  of Alaska  if  any individual  associated  with  it                                                                 
     is  named on  the sanctions  list  by U.S.  Department  of                                                                 
     Treasury.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Trusts  are   a legal   recognition  of  relationships                                                                     
     definitions  for  these  relationships  already  exist  in                                                                 
     statute:                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     - a settlor places their assets into trust                                                                                 
     - a  trustee or trustor  holds the assets  in their  name,                                                                 
     but  the assets do not  belong to them,  and they can  not                                                                 
     [sic] financially benefit from them                                                                                        
     -  a  beneficiary  will  receive  distributions  from  the                                                                 
     assets held in trust                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     *  Sec.  2.  AS 40.17.070  is  amended  by  adding  a  new                                                               
     subsection  to  make  it  impossible  for  individuals  on                                                                 
     the  U.S.  Department   of  Treasury  sanctions   list  to                                                                 
     acquire,  sell,  or gift  real property  in  the State  of                                                                 
     Alaska.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     The   Recorders   Office   in   Department    of  Natural                                                                  
     Resources  is  responsible  for keeping  records  on  real                                                                 
     estate  transactions.  The Recorders  Office  can utilize                                                                  
     the  Office of Foreign  Assets Control  sanctions list  to                                                                 
     avoid   any  future   sale   of  Alaskan   properties   to                                                                 
     individuals on the sanctions list.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     * Sec.  3. This section  provides for  an effective  date.                                                               
     This  bill will  not  impact trusts  established  or  real                                                                 
     estate  transactions  completed  prior  to  its effective                                                                  
     date.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:01:41 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ opened invited testimony on HB 406.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:01:56 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
RYAN  GURULE,   Policy   Director,  Financial   Accountability   and                                                            
Corporate   Transparency   (FACT)   Coalition,    provided   invited                                                            
testimony  on HB  406.  He  urged that  in promulgating  HB 406  the                                                            
committee   consider  typical  real  estate   anti-money  laundering                                                            
typologies and  creative corporate structuring that  is available to                                                            
sanctioned individuals, such as the  ability to purchase real estate                                                            
through trusts  or other anonymous  legal entities  or arrangements,                                                            
or via nominees.  He said HB  406 needs to contemplate and look past                                                            
legal blinders to  identify problematic buyers.  In  other words, he                                                            
continued, HB  405 will help  to ensure  that HB 406  is effectively                                                            
implemented  in Alaska  as would  similar measures  with respect  to                                                            
other  typologies.    This   would  ensure  that  sanctions  against                                                            
oligarchs  cannot be  avoided  through secrecy  and  that Alaska  is                                                            
encouraging the  type of investment  that will ensure  the long-term                                                            
growth  of  the  Alaskan  economy  to the  benefit  of  the  Alaskan                                                            
citizenry.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:03:55 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 10:03 a.m. to 10:04 a.m.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:04:31 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS   opined  that  international  criminals   who  use                                                            
trusts  to shield  their  assets  are like  vermin  and  it must  be                                                            
ensured  that  they  cannot  come  into  Alaska.    He  said  Alaska                                                            
cannot  control  what South  Dakota  or Nevada  do,  but Alaska  can                                                            
protect  itself  as  well as  set  a good  example  with  its  state                                                            
laws.   These goals  are important,  he continued,  because it  is a                                                            
reality  that  Putin   and  other  rogue  regimes  operate   through                                                            
informal  networks  of  hiding  and  generating  wealth,   including                                                            
through criminal  organizations.   Alaska must  do its part  to stop                                                            
someone  like  Putin  from  deriving  funding  for  a  criminal  and                                                            
aggressive regime, he added.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:05:36 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SPOHNHOLZ offered  her belief that  the committee  process                                                            
will make  the bill  better.  She  stressed that  the intent  is not                                                            
to  undermine  individual  Alaskans  or good  acting  Americans  who                                                            
want to  establish trusts.   She said the  trust industry in  Alaska                                                            
is an important  part of  the state's commercial  spectrum  and most                                                            
trusts  are family  trusts  that are  designed  to make  it easy  to                                                            
convey  assets.   [The intent],  she continued,  is  to ensure  that                                                            
Alaska  is not  part  of propping  up  bad  actors that  might  take                                                            
advantage of Alaska's trust system.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
[HB 406 was held over.]                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
               HB 407-PROHIBIT COMMERCE WITH RUSSIA                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:07:06 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SPOHNHOLZ  announced  that  the final  order  of  business                                                            
would  be HOUSE  BILL NO.  407, "An  Act relating  to commerce  with                                                            
Russia;  relating  to  the  use  of the  ports  in  the  state;  and                                                            
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SPOHNHOLZ  noted  that  HB  407 is  another  bill  in  the                                                            
suite  of legislation  that the  committee is  considering from  the                                                            
House Labor and Commerce Standing Committee.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:07:14 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS introduced  HB  407 on  behalf of  the House  Labor                                                            
and Commerce  Standing Committee,  sponsor.   He stated that  HB 407                                                            
would  prohibit the  importation of  Russian  goods specifically  by                                                            
using  Alaska's  powers of  state  to prohibit  Russian  boats  from                                                            
docking at  Alaskan ports  and offloading goods  and materials.   He                                                            
noted  that the  late Alaska  Congressman  Don Young  introduced  an                                                            
important  federal  bill  on  this  point,  and  that  Congress  has                                                            
taken  swift action  to  assure that  there  is strong  federal  law                                                            
prohibiting  the   fueling  of  the  Russian  war  machine   through                                                            
Russian  imports.   He  further noted  that  some of  the assets  of                                                            
some Russian  oligarchs who  were enriching  Putin have been  seized                                                            
by other  nations.  He recognized  that there  is a lot of  commerce                                                            
in Alaska  with Asia  and Europe  and said  longshoreman across  the                                                            
U.S.  have  on their  own  refused  to unload  Russian  products  at                                                            
ports.   Alaska as  a state should  support democracy  and the  free                                                            
people of  Ukraine, he said,  and HB 407  will ensure that  Alaskans                                                            
don't   inadvertently   provide   financing   to   Putin   and   his                                                            
aggressive regime.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:08:49 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
EVAN  ANDERSON,  Staff, Representative   Zack Fields,  Alaska  State                                                            
Legislature,   provided  the  sectional  analysis   for  HB  407  on                                                            
behalf  of  the  House   Labor  and  Commerce  Standing   Committee,                                                            
sponsor.    He  paraphrased  from  the  document   provided  in  the                                                            
committee  packet  titled  "Sectional  Analysis  House  Bill  407                                                               
Version   A,"   which  read   as   follows   [original  punctuation                                                             
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
         * Section 1. AS 30.50 is amended by adding a new                                                                     
       section to prohibit all Russian ships from docking at                                                                    
     ports in Alaska.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
       This includes Russian-flagged vessels, ships that are                                                                    
         crewed by Russian nationals, and ships that carry                                                                      
     Russian cargo.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     *  Sec. 2. AS  45.45 is amended  by adding  a new section                                                                
     that   bans  all   imports   and  exports   with  Russia,                                                                  
     including seafood, alcohol, and oil & gas.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     * Sec.  3. The uncodified  law of the  State of Alaska  is                                                               
     amended  by adding  a new  section that  permits specific                                                                  
     trade  with  Russia, including  the  docking  of specific                                                                  
     vessels,   if  contracts   were   signed   prior  to   the                                                                 
     effective date.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     *  Sec. 4. AS  30.50.030 and  AS 45.45.940  are repealed.                                                                
     Section  1 & 2  of this  bill are automatically  repealed                                                                  
     after 10 years.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     * Sec.  5. The uncodified  law of the  State of Alaska  is                                                               
     amended  by  adding  a  new  section  that  automatically                                                                  
     repeals  the  provisions  of this  bill  banning commerce                                                                  
     with  Russia, if  the current  security  risk is resolved                                                                  
     and the U.S. Government lifts its sanctions on Russia.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     *  Sec. 6. If,  under sec.  5(a) of  this Act,  sec. 4  of                                                               
     this  Act takes  effect, it  takes effect  on the earlier                                                                  
     of  either  July  1,  2032; or  the  day  on  which  DCCED                                                                 
     commissioner revises the statutes under Section 5(b)                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Sec.  7. Except as provided  in sec. 6  of this Act,  this                                                               
     Act  takes effect  immediately  under 3  AS 01.10.070(c).                                                                  
     Provides for an effective date.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDERSON  expounded on  Section 1 and  explained that  typically                                                            
the  only information  tracked  is for  flagged vessels.    However,                                                            
he continued,  vessels  come  into Alaska  waters  which are  crewed                                                            
or carry  Russian  cargo, and  these are  not always  tracked  under                                                            
similar measures.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:11:49 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ opened invited testimony on HB 407.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:11:59 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
STEVE  WHITE,  Captain,  Executive  Director,   Marine  Exchange  of                                                            
Alaska,  provided  invited  testimony on  HB  407 via  a  PowerPoint                                                            
presentation  titled  "Russian  Vessels in  Alaska."   He  displayed                                                            
the   second   slide,   "Sovcomflot   (SCF)   Vessels  2010-current                                                             
'Russia's  Largest Shipping  Company.'"  He  stated that the  Marine                                                            
Exchange  does traffic analysis  and sea traffic  management,  and a                                                            
traffic  analysis  was done  on Russian  ships  and  ships that  are                                                            
associated  with Russia  or  Russian companies,  some  of which  was                                                            
done  for the  federal government.   He  said SCF,  a Russian-owned                                                             
company  with a  focus on  moving hydrocarbons,  jet  fuel, made  12                                                            
port calls  at Anchorage  over the  last 10  years, including  three                                                            
[in  2022].   He related  that  SCF ships  are flagged  by  Liberia,                                                            
not  Russia,  but  noted  that flagging  in  another  country  is  a                                                            
common  practice.   He said  the black  lines on  the map  delineate                                                            
traffic  to  Alaska  and  the  white  lines  delineate   traffic  to                                                            
Canada and Washington.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CAPTAIN  WHITE  proceeded  to  the  third  slide,  "SCF  Tankers  at                                                            
Alaska  Ports 0 <  COG <  180."  He  explained that  the blue  lines                                                            
on the  map represent  where the  tankers came  from, east to  west,                                                            
to  hit  Alaska  ports.   But,  he  continued,  they  originated  in                                                            
Korea  and before  they were  in Korea they  came from  Russia.   He                                                            
reiterated  that  SCF  is  a  Russian   owned  company  but  is  not                                                            
Russian flagged.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CAPTAIN  WHITE moved  to the fourth  slide, "SCF  Tankers at  Alaska                                                            
Ports 180  < COG <  360."  He explained  that the  red lines  on the                                                            
map represent  the  tankers going  back from  the west  to the  east                                                            
and that they went to Russian ports instead of South Korea.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CAPTAIN  WHITE  showed the  fifth  slide, "Russian-flagged   Vessels                                                            
Along  the Border  (2014    2021)."   He said  the two  maps on  the                                                            
slide  show the  massive  amount  of Russian  flagged  vessels  that                                                            
came close  to Alaska  borders.   He explained  that the  depictions                                                            
are of  the Bering  Strait with  tracks in color  by industry  [blue                                                            
= fishing,  black =  tanker, green  = cargo, orange  = tug,  fuchsia                                                            
= passenger/pleasure,   and red  = military/law  enforcement].    He                                                            
drew attention  to the  map on the  left and  noted that the  [solid                                                            
blue color]  that looks  like water  is just  the fishing  activity.                                                            
He then  brought attention  to the extensive  activity shown  on the                                                            
map to  the right and  said it  excludes the  fishing activity.   He                                                            
pointed  out   that  the  boat  making   port  calls  out   of  Nome                                                            
[depicted   by   the  fuchsia-colored    line]   is  listed   as   a                                                            
passenger/pleasure   craft  on  the  Automated  Information   System                                                            
(AIS),  but that it  is actually  a research  vessel which  receives                                                            
its  permits  through  the [U.S.  Department  of  State].    Captain                                                            
White  turned to the  sixth slide,  "Russian-flagged  Vessels  in AK                                                            
Ports 2010-current,"  and stated  that there  has not been a  ton of                                                            
port calls in Alaska since 2010.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CAPTAIN  WHITE displayed  the seventh  slide,  "Russian Superyachts                                                             
2010-2021."   He said these  superyachts of  oligarchs have  visited                                                            
Southeast  Alaska,  with the  last  one  in 2018.   He  offered  his                                                            
belief  that  one  of  the  vessels  has  been   seized  by  another                                                            
country at  this time.   He pointed out that  these superyachts  are                                                            
not  flagged by  Russia,  but  rather Bermuda  and  Cayman  Islands,                                                            
and  advised that  deeper  analysis  must often  be  done to  figure                                                            
out where [vessels] come from.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CAPTAIN  WHITE spoke  to the  eighth  slide, "Russian  Vessel  Calls                                                            
at  Alaska Ports  2010-current."    He stated  that  not many  cargo                                                            
ships  come from  overseas directly  to  Alaska -  much of  Alaska's                                                            
cargo  comes from  the bigger  ports on  the [U.S.]  West Coast  and                                                            
then to  Alaska, and  a lot of that  is by barge  rather than  cargo                                                            
ship, especially  in Southeast  Alaska.  So,  he added, the  control                                                            
points really  are in the  Lower 48.  He  summarized by noting  that                                                            
over the  past 11  years, there  have been less  than 20  commercial                                                            
visits from  Russian ships  which includes  the Russian-owned  ships                                                            
that are  Liberian flagged,  and less than  40 personal or  pleasure                                                            
port calls in Alaska.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:18:17 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KAUFMAN asked  whether there  would be some  kind of                                                            
work around  for an emergency  if Alaska was  to close its  ports to                                                            
vessels  owned  by  Russians.    Responding  to  Captain  White  for                                                            
clarification,  he  asked  whether there  would  be a  safety  valve                                                            
should  there be a  Russian vessel  is in distress,  but Alaska  has                                                            
closed its ports to vessels owned by Russians.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CAPTAIN  WHITE replied  yes.   He  explained  that anyone  having  a                                                            
problem  can claim  force majeure,  which  gives the  right to  pull                                                            
into  port.  He  said this  is a  common  practice internationally,                                                             
and it  allows for  that to  happen for  safety reasons,  such  as a                                                            
mechanical breakdown or humanitarian crisis.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   KAUFMAN  asked  whether   the  bill  as   currently                                                            
written would allow that.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CAPTAIN  WHITE responded  that he  doesn't know  all the details  of                                                            
the  bill, but  he doesn't  think  Alaska could  write  a bill  that                                                            
would prevent force majeure.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:19:56 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SPOHNHOLZ asked  whether  force majeure  is international                                                             
law as well as U.S. law.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CAPTAIN WHITE  confirmed that  force majeure  is international  law.                                                            
He said  it protects U.S.  vessels like other  vessels that  operate                                                            
here; for  example, a U.S.  boat that needs  to pull into a  foreign                                                            
country  for an emergency  reason.   It  is for safety  of life  and                                                            
protection  of  the  environment,  he  stated,  and  it  is  extreme                                                            
circumstances.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:20:41 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CLAYTON   W.A.  CHRISTY,   Captain,  President,   provided   invited                                                            
testimony  during the  hearing on  HB 407.   He  stated that  Alaska                                                            
Marine Pilots  is a small  group comprised  of 10 captains  mandated                                                            
by the  State  of Alaska  to provide  pilotage services  to  vessels                                                            
plying  the  coastal  waters  of  Region  III,  Western  Alaska,  to                                                            
assure  the protection  of shipping,  human life  and property,  and                                                            
the  marine environment.    He  noted that  Region  III encompasses                                                             
all  state  waters  west  of  156  degrees  west  longitude,   which                                                            
includes  the  Alaska Peninsula,   the Aleutian  Islands,  the  west                                                            
coast  of Alaska  including  the  islands  of  the Bering  Sea,  and                                                            
along the  northern coast  to the Canadian  border.  He said  Alaska                                                            
Marine   Pilots  provides   firsthand  the   pilotage  services   to                                                            
foreign  flagged  vessels  that  are  calling   in  Alaskan  waters.                                                            
Over  the  years,   he  related,  Alaska  Marine  Pilots   has  seen                                                            
Russian  flagged   oil  tankers,  Russian  flagged  research   ships                                                            
calling  into  the  Port of  Nome  and  Port of  Dutch  Harbor,  and                                                            
Russian   flagged  icebreakers   calling  into   Dutch  Harbor   and                                                            
various  other ports  during  the  years when  Shell  was doing  its                                                            
exploration in the Chukchi Sea.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:22:23 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NELSON  asked  whether  enactment  of HB  407  would                                                            
cause  any  concerns   or  dangers  to  utilizing  Russian   flagged                                                            
icebreakers that are vital on the north side of Alaska.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CAPT. CHRISTY  replied  that, to his  knowledge,  this would  not be                                                            
harmed by the bill.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:23:15 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ANDERSON  recalled   that  about  four  or  five  years  ago  a                                                            
Russian  icebreaker  provided  a  fuel  delivery  to Nome  when  the                                                            
city had  run out fuel.   He stated that  HB 407 does not  currently                                                            
contain any  provision for  emergencies and  that that change  would                                                            
be welcomed.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NELSON said  that is the  incident he was  referring                                                            
to, and  he would  look at that  change until  U.S. icebreakers  are                                                            
put online.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
[HB 407 was held over.]                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:25:24 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Labor and Commerce Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at                                                                  
10:25 a.m.                                                                                                                      

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Chad Stigen Application_Redacted.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HLAC Confirmations 2022
Devon Thomas Application_Redacted.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HLAC Confirmations 2022
Ciara Vollaro Application_Redacted.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HLAC Confirmations 2022
Devon Thomas Resume_Redacted.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HLAC Confirmations 2022
Gabriel King Application_Redacted.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HLAC Confirmations 2022
Hannah St. George Application_Redacted.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HLAC Confirmations 2022
Kathleen Rice Application_Redacted.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HLAC Confirmations 2022
Valery Kudryn Application_Redacted.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HLAC Confirmations 2022
Valery Kudryn Resume_Redacted.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HLAC Confirmations 2022
HB 405 - Sponsor Statement.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 405
HB 405 - Sectional Analysis.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 405
HB 405 and HB 406_testimony_ATEP 4.13.22.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 405
HB 406
HB 405 Supporting Document - Euro Parliament Resolution - 9-2021-0438.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 405
HB 405 Supporting Document - Tax Justice Network Andres Knobel 033122.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 405
HB 405 Supporting Document - Trust-Jurisdiction-Objective-Comparison.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 405
HB 405 Supporting Document - ICIJ Will Fitzgibbon ADN 100422.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 405
HB 406 - Sectional Analysis.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 406
HB 406 - Sponsor Statement.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 406
HB 406 Supporting Document - OFAC U.S. Department of the Treasury FAQs.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 406
HB 406 Supporting Document - Sen Rubio support Magnitsky reauthorization.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 406
HB 407 - Sectional Analysis.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 407
HB 407 Supporting Document - Stateside Associates.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 407
HB 407 - Sponsor Statement.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 407
SB 174 Amendment 1_4.14.22.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HL&C 4/18/2022 3:15:00 PM
SB 174
SB 174 Amendment 2_4.14.22.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HL&C 4/18/2022 3:15:00 PM
SB 174
HB 406 Fiscal Note DNR.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 406
HB 405 Fiscal Note DCCED.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 405
HB 405 406 407 presentation_041522.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 405
HB 407_presentation_4.15.22.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 407
HB 405 Testimony_FACT Coalition_4.15.2022.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 405